Saturn – Neptune cycle in astrology
Saturn – Neptune is a cycle of 35 years characterized by:
– the Neptune symbols are opposed by Saturn, which is negating them, judging, disciplining, structuring, forging thus giving a concrete dimension;
– ideals that get a concrete forms; archetypes that are brought in our reality through books, movies, games, super heroes;
– idealist or unrealistic movements; vision of a utopic society; esoteric groups;
– conflicts between religion and secularism, skepticism towards religion (God vs science conflict);
– spiritual exhaustion, lose of faith;
– to sustain faith in darkness; deep faith in face of tragic reality;
– collective experiences of tragic loss of innocent or helpless people, widespread sense of diffuse helplessness, despair, profound sorrow, resignation;
– defeat of the common ideals, death of dreams, depression;
– psychological problems are spreading: anxiety, narcissism, escapism and denial, dissociation, autistic introversion, addiction and dependency of various kind, insomnia and dream problems, physical and spiritual fatigue, concern with chronic and debilitated illnesses, post traumatic stress disorders;
– abuses of drugs;
– the theme of poisoning, pollution, toxic chemical effects;
– oil exploitation; epidemics;
– independence movements; represents the protests of the people which don’t obey any more, a vision for the future, hope;
– communism is represented by Neptune, as a political ideology where all are equal; in many ways it proved to be an unrealistic plan; the cycle is linked with the evolution of communism;
– this cycle is linked with the evolution of communism and, especially, Russia, as is shown from the beginning of the last cycles: 1989 – fall of URSS, 1953 – Stalin’s death bring important change in URSS politics; 1917 – the October Revolution; 1882 – Marxist political parties were created in Europe; 1848 – Communist Manifesto was published in 1848 by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels – – and, probably, 2025 – the fall of Putin and defeat of Russia in the Ukraine war (this is written in 2022)
Saturn – Neptune current cycle:
1. 2024 – 2053, 12 Capricorn – first conjunction on 20 February 2026
General delineation
The current Saturn – Neptune cycle (chart of the cycle is the picture below) has the following characteristics:
– it begins in Pisces in 2024, even the first exact conjunction is in Aries in 2026;
– Fall of Putin regime in Russia;
a) First conjunction (2024 – 2027) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Aries
– Fall of Putin regime:
b) First square (2035) – Saturn in Cancer square Neptune in Aries
c) Opposition (2042) – Saturn in Scorpio opposes Neptune in Taurus
Saturn – Neptune previous cycles:
2. 1989 – 2023, 12 Capricorn – first conjunction on 3 Mars 1989
General delineation
The current Saturn – Neptune cycle (chart of the cycle is the picture below) has the following characteristics:
– Fall of USSR: the Revolutions of 1989 overthrew the communist regimes in Poland, Hungary, East Germany, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Romania. The Soviet Union was dissolved by the end of 1991;
a) First conjunction (1989 – 1990) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Capricorn
– Fall of USSR: the Revolutions of 1989 overthrew the communist regimes in Poland, Hungary, East Germany, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Romania. The Soviet Union was dissolved by the end of 1991.
b) First square (1998 – 1999) – Saturn in Taurus square Neptune in Aquarius
c) Opposition (2005 – 2008) – Saturn in Leo (Virgo) opposes Neptune in Aquarius
– December 2004 – Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami that killed an estimated 227,898 people in 14 countries; death by water; wave of grief;
– August 2005 – catastrophic flooding in New Orleans after the Gulf Coast hurricane Katrina, 1,464 people died
d) Second square (2014 – 2016) – Saturn in Sagittarius square Neptune in Pisces
3. 1952-1989, 23 Libra – first conjunction on 21 November 1952
– USSR domination
a) First conjunction (1951 – 1953) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Libra
– Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin`s death of 1953 represented a new period for the evolution of communism which developed using the causes of nationalism and decolonisation in his favour;
– the Korean war in 1951-1953 and the demoralizing situation of the soldiers with endless casualties; the atmosphere is captured in the movie MASH that was released in 1970 when Saturn Neptune was in opposition; no hope situation; dark humor;
b) First square (1962 – 1963) – Saturn in Aquarius square Neptune in Scorpio
– Cuban Missile Crisis (1962), the Cold War came closest to turning into a nuclear conflict
c) Opposition (1970 – 1973) – Saturn in Taurus (Gemini) opposes Neptune in Scorpio (Sagittarius)
– Fourth Arab–Israeli War (Yom Kippur War), was fought from October 6 to 25, 1973, between Israel and a coalition of Arab states led by Egypt and Syria;
– The 1973 Soviet economic reform, initiated after a period of stagnation
– John Lennon song “The dream is over” is launched in 1970 and “Imagine” in 1971
3. 1917 – 1953, 5 Leo – first conjunction on 1 August 1917
– from The October Revolution to the end of Stalin era
a) First conjunction (1917 – 1918) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Leo
– The Russian Revolutions from 1917 conducted to the overthrow of the Tsarist autocracy and the rising to power of the Bolshevik party, led by Vladimir Lenin.
b) First square (1926 – 1927) – Saturn in Scorpio (Sagittarius) square Neptune in Leo
– Stalin rose to power in the Soviet Union
c) Opposition (1935 – 1937) – Saturn in Pisces opposes Neptune in Virgo
– The Great Purge was a series of campaigns of political repression and persecution in the Soviet Union orchestrated by Joseph Stalin from 1936 to 1938, characterized by widespread police surveillance, widespread suspicion of “saboteurs”, imprisonment, and arbitrary execution
– workers movements take place in the world: United States (1934 – 1938), France (1936), in Spain a civil war (1936).
4. 1882 – 1917, 16 Taurus – first conjunction on 12 May 1882
– from the socialist parties to the Russia revolution
a) First conjunction (1881 – 1883) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Taurus
– in many European countries the first Marxist political parties were created: “Emancipation of Labour group” was created in Russia by Georgi Plekhanov and others in 1883; French Workers’ Party was created in France by Jules Guesde and Paul Lafargue in 1880; the Social Democratic Federation was established as Britain’s first organised socialist political party by H. M. Hyndman in 1881;
– most of the countries had their socialist parties formed and also labour unions;
– are elaborated laws that protect workers or established the work condition, the women and children protection, the social assurances;
– Marxist political parties were created in Europe
– Nietzsche announced the “death of God”
b) Opposition (1898 – 1900) – Saturn in Sagittarius opposes Neptune in Gemini
– The Marxist Russian Party split into Bolsheviks and Mensheviks in 1903, as the ideolog
ical conflict between Lenin and Juliy Martov
– In France, 1899, a split appeared between Jaures and Guesde
5. 1846 – 1882, 27 Aquarius – first conjunction on 5 September 1846
– from Marxism to socialist parties
a) First conjunction (1845 – 1847) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Aquarius
– The Communist League was established in June 1847 in London, England. It is regarded as the first Marxist political party;
– The Communist Manifesto was published in 1848 by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, one of the most important political writings;
– The European Revolutions of 1848 (Spring of nations) were a series of general political upheavals which began in France and continued in the German states, the Austrian Empire, the Italian states, Denmark, Wallachia, Poland, and others. It was a general collapse for the traditional system, but in a year the revolutions were defeated.
b) Opposition (1861 – 1864) – Saturn in Virgo (Libra) opposes Neptune in Pisces (Aries)
– between 1862 – 1864 take place many protests, strikes and are established many coalitions involving the working class;
– First International, an international organization which aimed at uniting a variety of different left-wing socialist, communist and anarchist political groups was formed in 1864
6. 1809 – 1846, 7 Sagittarius – first conjunction on 1 December 1809
– the Saturn – Neptune cycle is overlapping with Saturn – Uranus (1805 – 1852) cycle
a) First conjunction (1809 – 1810) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Sagittarius
– in Europe, nationalism, patriotism and solidarity were displayed as the countries were fighting together against Napoleon;
– the Spanish – American wars of independence (1808-1833) began in that period with movements in Venezuela, Argentina, Chile, Mexico
b) Opposition (1826 – 1829) – Saturn in Cancer opposes Neptune in Capricorn
– the opposition is overlapping with Saturn – Uranus opposition (1828 – 1829) and is joining another set of aspects: Jupiter – Neptune conjunction (1830), Jupiter – Uranus conjunction (1831), Jupiter – Saturn opposition (1832), all in a period of 5 years (1827 – 1832) marked by the revolutionary wave of 1830 – 1831, the independence of Belgium (1831), the autonomy of Serbia (1830), defeats for the old regimes in Portugal, Spain Switzerland. It is a period when bourgeoisie, capitalism, liberalism, nationalism is born. On the other hand, the workers start to appear as a social power, as protests and unions are developing. The two powers are face to face.
7. 1773 – 1809, 19 Virgo – first conjunction on 27 September 1773
a) First conjunction (1772 – 1774) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Virgo
– The Boston Tea Party (1773) was a protest by colonists in Boston, a town in the British colony of Massachusetts, against the British government; the crisis escalated, and the American Revolutionary War began near Boston in 1775.
8. 1738 – 1773, 1 Cancer – first conjunction on 2 July 1738
a) First conjunction (1737 – 1739) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Gemini, Cancer
9. 1703 – 1738, 12 Aries – first conjunction on 28 March 1703
a) First conjunction (1702 – 1704) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Aries
10. 1667 – 1703, 22 Capricorn – first conjunction on 2 January 1667
a) First conjunction (1665 – 1667) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Capricorn
11. 1629 – 1667, 3 Scorpio – first conjunction on 19 December 1629
a) First conjunction (1628 – 1631) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Scorpio
12. 1594 – 1629, 14 Leo – first conjunction on 7 August 1594
a) First conjunction (1593 – 1595) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Leo
13. 1559 – 1594, 26 Taurus – first conjunction on 11 May 1559
a) First conjunction (1558 – 1560) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Taurus
14. 1523 – 1559, 8 Pisces – first conjunction on 30 April 1523
a) First conjunction (1522 – 1524) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Pisces
15. 1486 – 1523, 17 Sagittarius – first conjunction on 22 December 1486
a) First conjunction (1485 – 1487) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Sagittarius
16. 1450 – 1486, 28 Virgo – first conjunction on 19 September 1450
a) First conjunction (1449 – 1451) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Virgo
17. 1415 – 1450, 10 Cancer – first conjunction on 13 June 1415
a) First conjunction (1414 – 1416) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Cancer
18. 1380 – 1415, 21 Aries – first conjunction on 21 March 1380
a) First conjunction (1379 – 1381) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Aries
19. 1344 – 1380, 2 Aquarius – first conjunction on 22 January 1344
a) First conjunction (1343 – 1345) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Aquarius
20. 1307 – 1344, 13 Scorpio – first conjunction on 16 January 1307
a) First conjunction (1306 – 1308) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Scorpio
21. 1271 – 1307, 24 Leo – first conjunction on 27 July 1271
a) First conjunction (1270 – 1272) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Leo
22. 1236 – 1271, 6 Gemini – first conjunction on 11 May 1236
a) First conjunction (1235 – 1237) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Gemini
23. 1200 – 1236, 18 Pisces – first conjunction on 09 June 1200
a) First conjunction (1200 – 1201) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Pisces
24. 1164 – 1200, 28 Sagittarius – first conjunction on 11 February 1164
a) First conjunction (1163 – 1165) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Sagittarius
25. 1127 – 1164, 8 Libra – first conjunction on 24 October 1127
a) First conjunction (1126 – 1128) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Libra
26. 1092 – 1127, 20 Cancer – first conjunction on 28 June 1092
a) First conjunction (1091 – 1093) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Cancer
27. 1057 – 1092, 2 Taurus – first conjunction on 16 April 1057
a) First conjunction (1056 – 1058) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Taurus
28. 1021 – 1057, 13 Aquarius – first conjunction on 10 March 1021
a) First conjunction (1020 – 1022) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Aquarius
29. 984 – 1021, 25 Scorpio – first conjunction on 11 November 984
a) First conjunction (983 – 985) – Saturn conjunct Neptune in Scorpio
